It’s been wickedly amusing to see the discussions regarding Hermetic Press’s book by Max Maven, “The Protocols of the Elders of Magic” — especially when the discussion surrounds ethics and secrets. (And, eventually, all discussions regarding magic lead to ethics and secrets.)

Steve Pellegrino admits to reading the Genii BBS thread about the thing, and all he comes away with is that people were arguing about the ethics of reselling the book? Maybe someone at Genii is playing a cruel joke on Steve, feeding him a special version of the thread devoid of the context of that particular aspect. On the other hand, maybe Steve didn’t actually read the entire thread and thus we have an explanation for the straw man he first constructed and then torched.

Rather than force you to endure the thing (the Genii thread, I mean) allow me please to summarize my contribution to the thread regarding the reselling doctrine. Please read them in order, slowly:

1. There were only 500 copies of this book made available

2. There are more than 500 people wishing to own this book

3. Several people purchased multiple copies of this book with the sole intention of reselling the additional copies at a higher price to those who could not order one, knowing full and well that a limited edition Max Maven book would command higher prices on the secondary market

4. This action prevented many people from obtaining a copy from Hermetic Press at the $50 price

5. I called that “distasteful” because I thought it was unkind to deliberately deplete a limited source for the sole purpose of causing others to pay a higher price. (There’s a one-word euphamism for this behavior, which I will leave to your imagination.)

In a nutshell, that’s my position on the reselling of the Maven book.

Do I care if individual owners sell their copy? No. Jeremy Medows is one of the many valuable Internet associations I’ve made over the years. He received his book and subsequently listed it on eBay. I took the time to send Jeremy a note asking why he sold it. His reply was perfectly in keeping with what I suspected.

But that’s not a situation I was referring to and only someone who read the thread would know that.

You think I’m off my rocker in this case? Fine with me. You are welcome to your opinion. But if you believe it is ethically alright to buy additional copies with the intention of reselling them to the people your own actions deprived of their own ability to buy one, and stick them for double or triple the price for the privilege, I’d prefer you continue to make that position known publicly. Really, I do. I’d rather know for a fact you’re not someone I care to do business with or associate with personally, than be left to wonder.

For some people, their world view looks like this: if it is perfectly legal, it is perfectly alright. A close cousin to this is: it’s just business. (Haven’t we been around this “it’s just business” tree before?)

Here’s a newsflash: Legal and Immoral entered into a co-habitation partnership years ago and their bastard offspring have been causing no end of problems since. On the other hand, the marriage between Moral and Ethical has been strong since the beginning of time, and continues to cause no end of trouble to those who prefer the more popular couple mentioned above.

Back to “if it’s legal, it’s alright.” That’s not entirely accurate, is it? That someone is perfectly within their legal rights to do something does not make it morally or ethically the right thing to do. The Supreme Court of the United States of America created a situation whereby abortion is a perfectly legal method of birth control. (Next to abstinence, it’s the ultimate in birth control, actually.) But is it morally right?

In the Genii BBS thread, I used the phrase “social ecology.” By that I mean how your actions impact the lives of those around you. If you have the flu, it is perfectly legal for you to visit a retirement home. But is it fair to the people in that home that you bring a virus among them, and upset their “ecology”? In my opinion, no it is not. But that’s just me.

Oh, I can see the eyes rolling around in your head now. Old John’s comparing selling a magic book to giving some old folks the flu, and to murdering a baby aborting a fetus. I fully understand there are more than just a few people who quickly find themselves out of their intellectual depth on their initial viewing of “Dumb and Dumber” (which is the only excuse I can find for subsequent viewings), but I suspect those aren’t the people reading this blog. (Yes, I know, I’m being snotty. If this surprises you, you’re obviously new in town.)

The process for rationalizing one is the same as that of rationalizing the other; the difference is where you draw the moral and ethical line in the sand. For instance, for some it’s okay to copy magic videos, but not to kill a baby. Or It’s not okay to copy magic videos, but downloading songs via Your Favorite P2P App is okay because, well, (insert your rationalization here).

How about this: how do your actions affect those around you? Selfish people cannot even read that sentence aloud, let alone contemplate it seriously and sincerely.

As I’ve mentioned to my friend Jim Sisti more than once, I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. In other words, I am the world’s biggest fan of free enterprise and, in fact, think it is the solution to most of the economic problems in the country — not the cause of them. At the same time, I do not believe in profiting by taking advantage of people. Financial success and not screwing people over are not mutually exclusive terms. If you find they are, perhaps you should examine your priority pyramid; it may be upside down.

And I didn’t even touch on keeping the subject and contents of the book secret. That’s a whole ‘nuther issue.

8 thoughts on “Can and should.

  1. Dear John,

    You end this entry with: “And I didn’t even touch on keeping the subject and contents of the book secret. That’s a whole ‘nuther issue.”

    That is an issue I would like to hear your thoughts on.

    Jim

  2. IT’s a book. There is no “magic” secret on the level of tricks that we do for laymen.

    The talk in magicdom is telling. The reading skills are aparently lacking.

    Don’t talk to me about secrets.

  3. Don’t talk to me about secrets.

    On the contrary, Jon, you are exactly the person with whom I’d want to spend an afternoon talking about secrets.

  4. I get confused when other people use the term “secrets”.

    There are some people who discuss their ideas and concerns with me, and when I get the feeling (or they state their concern that a thing stay private) that the subject is best left private, I treat the matter as private. Not so much secret as private. It’s theirs and they chose to permit me some access to their thoughts on the matter. In some ways this is like having a key to a friend’s house. It remains their house.

    Then we get to the notion of witnessing. Yes I have attended demonstrations of novel routines and also skills which are useful in conjuring. Till these are written up by the inventors it seems odd to discuss such things. If nothing else, anything I say might spoil the surprise for others.

    For the most part what I see is a matter of respect for the hard work and intent of other artists. What secrets?

  5. Let me play devil’s advocate here for a second since every other comment has been essentially of the “me too” ilk. I know I’m risking the wrath of John not doing business with me any more, but as I said, I’m playing devil’s advocate here. And I hope I’m promoting discussion. If I’m also bringing down wrath, well, it wouldn’t be the first time.

    The people who bought more than one copy of the book presumably didn’t know it would sell out. And history tells us the demand may very well not hold. For those who want a copy, patience may be a virtue. The book may well be rereleased (correct me if there have been statements to the contrary). It may well show up on eBay in a year for $30. Some people gambled and they won, short term. What the fervor tells us more than anything is that we live in an instant gratification society.

    5. I called that “distasteful” because I thought it was unkind to deliberately deplete a limited source for the sole purpose of causing others to pay a higher price.

    OK, I have to comment on this – “causing” others to pay a higher price? Sorry, no. Free will and all. No one was required to own the book. And everyone who paid more than $50 chose what price they were willing to pay. If no one was willing to pay more than $50, the speculators would have been screwed.

  6. With all due respect to Jim Short, I find it highly unlikely that the book will be re-released. From the description of the book on the Hermetic Press website:

    “The Protocols of the Elders of Magic is printed in two colors on fine linen paper, and consists of 214 pages in a three-piece hardcover binding with bonded-leather spine and book-ribbon. Only 500 numbered copies will be offered for sale, all signed by MAX MAVEN.”

    Because of the extremely limited supply, I believe that this numbered, signed edition will hold its value fairly well. After all of the hoopla has died down, it will be interesting to see what happens to the price of this book on the used market.

  7. Thanks for that comment, Barry. However, it reads to me a little ambiguous. “Only 500 numbered copies will be offered for sale, all signed by MAX MAVEN,” doesn’t rule out a rerelease of an UNnumbered, UNsigned version, in which case, of course, the value will be in owning one of the first run.

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